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Really really confined engine bay lengthwise. yeah, had actually already figured that out ... it was a tongue in cheek post, that I didn't explain ... my negative In reply to spitfirebill: I added that point because when I had to locate a substitute 4.9 for my F150, I needed to go via each in every junkyard in South Jersey to discover one that had not been sludged up truly terribly.
Bernie: Which is a much better van, while we're going to talk regarding a couple of problems of these vans, yet I I'm clearly not going to come out and state one is much better than the various other. Bernie: Well, they're essentially the very same vehicle.
Mark: So, well, let's begin with engines then. Allow's chat concerning engine and in fact simply to define that the version years, we're going to start from 2000 and up, you recognize, I imply, these vans have actually been around for a long time.
And, you understand, for a version of a Chevy van has actually been around since, you recognize, around that time also. We're not going to get back right into, right into the earlier things. Given that 2000, I suggest, Ford's, you can obtain these with V6 engines or V8s. V8s are far more prominent and I would not truly suggest a V6 engine.
You understand, Fords, and many of them come with the Triton V8. There's a great deal of problems with these engines. In the earlier 2000 trigger plugs with blow to these engines, since they really did not have adequate threading in the stimulate plug, which caused troubles. And commonly that would certainly take place when you could be in a 15 guest bus rising a hillside with a lots of individuals and all of an abrupt boom, an ignition system pops out and you're stranded.
So if you're buying anything from probably 08 and more recent, you're not mosting likely to have that kind of ignition system issues. Various other locations though, with the Fords that we see, consumption manifolds will certainly leak, they'll establish coolant leakages. It's a plastic manifold generally you have to change the entire point.
And there's some issues, the Ford engine I need to state in their favour, due to the fact that I'm speaking about troubles, it's an extra advanced engine. Expenses cam, so you're obtaining even more power and performance out of the engine than you would on a Chevy, which is a less complex design with push poles.
They're simply truly respectable, long lasting, strong engines. You understand, being a van, obviously, you recognize, doing any type of solution on them is more complex since you've got to get rid of that cover and get involved in maintenance in unusual ways. However things like stimulate plugs last a horrible long period of time, so they don't need to be replaced very usually.
Mark: Can you buy these vans with diesel engines? Bernie: You can and we do service a few of them. I can't assume of if we've ever before done a Chevy, however Chevy, they're available from 2006 to 16 with a Duramax diesel. The Fords have had diesels in them for a lengthy time, like method back before the 2000 version year.
You know, that's still offered. If you're a say, I don't know, I'm simply going to state a plumbing technician and you've got like a whole lot of heavyweight inside your van and you're hauling a trailer behind it, that would certainly be a truly great use of having a diesel powered van.
In all justness, it seems like the diesels are, they seem to have less problems in vans than they do in the vehicles. Possibly because they aren't worked so hard, however when points take place, they're actually expensive to take care of. We have actually obtained a great deal of videos and details regarding diesels, particularly the Fords.
You really need to assume twice concerning obtaining a diesel in a van. And I will certainly claim, Chevy is quite much limited to V8 engines, yet Ford has a V 10 engine as well, which is an impressive gas guzzling engine.
If you're, and once again, we're simply talking about kind of a directly, normal freight van below. The diesel most definitely isn't the most effective option. Look at your purpose, your usage, how much weight you're transporting and that'll aid you decide. Mark: What about the transmission et cetera of the drive train? Bernie: They're quite a lot equivalent.
Something that we have not chatted concerning right here is what kind of van. These vans are, and it depends upon what design, they're offered ever from half lot to one load chassis and in fact some of the cutaway vans are in fact even a lot more resilient, like, you understand, 450s and 550s for say the Fords.
Bernie: You understand, I'm going to give the side to Ford on this one. And the reason for Ford is that it's a little easier.
There's much less guiding linkage associated with a Chevy. There are less components to use out. They do a ball joints that wear. So do Chevy's, however it seems, and the Chevy's possibly last a bit longer than the Fords, but the, you know, the steering linkage is much less difficult, so there's less parts and much less products to put on out.
The adventure in a Ford is most likely a bit more truck like yet I don't know if you 'd in fact ever really saw a difference between the two. It appears like their elements are a little tougher on the Ford than the Chevy.
For some reason, they appear to last for one brake task. And afterwards a great deal of times we take the brakes off and state, Oh, the dirt boots torn, and so the caliper requires to be changed. I think on a Ford and you can expect to spend a little bit more cash on brakes and you can on a Chevy.
And I can, I'm going to digress back prior to the 2000 design years, there were some Chevy vans that had truly poor doors. I mean, the sliding doors were crap, you recognize, actually terribly developed. As an issue of fact, I would certainly claim that if you are also taking a look at something older, it seems like Chevy and GMC vans actually and their vehicles in general actually took a leap onward in top quality around the 2000 version year, due to the fact that there was a great deal of stuff where the brakes for instance would not last long whatsoever.
Yet if we're considering the 2000 newer, I indicate, I would certainly state they're both most likely basically equivalent in high quality, fit and surface, you recognize, some of the guest vans, naturally we'll have nicer visits than the freight vans. I can't claim that one of them stands out to me a little bit even more than the other.
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